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Post by ian on Feb 28, 2010 11:00:44 GMT
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Post by sprintman on Feb 28, 2010 15:10:08 GMT
The committee are looking into the implications. Currently the club has the Championship regs & the three Aintree sprint event regs approved by the MSA. This could be embarassing for the MSA if they now have to do a U-TURN!
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Post by ian on Feb 28, 2010 17:40:24 GMT
Its getting very close to the start of the season now and most will probably have already bought tyres.............i'm fortunate as i am in Modified but my mate is in Road Going and could be at a big disadvantage
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Post by sprintman on Mar 1, 2010 10:48:45 GMT
Its getting very close to the start of the season now and most will probably have already bought tyres.............i'm fortunate as i am in Modified but my mate is in Road Going and could be at a big disadvantage Couldn't agree more and I have to say that several competitors have already bought List 1A tyres for the season. I suspect that despite all the lobbying that is currently taking place the MSA, who are in a rather embarassing position, will not back down. This is only my take on things so I would suggest your "mate" holds on for the time being to see what transpires however I would hope this will be resolved very quickly.
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Post by ian on Mar 7, 2010 9:11:59 GMT
any news yet? I thought the MSA were making a final decision last week?
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Post by Ron on Mar 7, 2010 9:51:49 GMT
We are still awaiting a decision. I will post it here as soon as we know.
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Post by ian on Mar 7, 2010 10:05:09 GMT
We are still awaiting a decision. I will post it here as soon as we know. Cheers Ron, Lets hope they see sence and leave things alone
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Post by speedsport on Mar 10, 2010 15:24:09 GMT
Sprint & Hill Climb regulation clarification
Following recent discussion regarding tyres in Roadgoing Categories for Sprint & Hill Climb Events, the Motor Sports Association is pleased to clarify the regulation as follows:
Tyre Requirements in Sprints & Hill Climbs
The Technical Regulations applicable to the Category of “Roadgoing Production Cars and Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars” are set out within (S)11.
(S)11.6.2. states: Wheels and Tyres. “Except for Period Defined Vehicles (Non-Rally) A-H inclusive are to (L) List 1A and List 1B.”
Championship/Event Organisers are then free, within these Categories, by means of Class Regulation to specify tyre choice to being either (L) List 1A, (L) List 1B or any specific tyre from either list. In order to do so appropriate regulation must be incorporated into the specific Championship/Event Regulations. Release MSA10-023: 10 March 2010 This communication is for general release and is authorised to hold regulatory value.
Issued on behalf of the Motor Sports Association For further MSA information please contact Ben Taylor Telephone: +44 (0)7866 449940 E-mail: media@msauk.org Issued on behalf of the Motor Sports Association, Motor Sports House, Riverside Park, Colnbrook, SL3 0HG
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Post by ian on Mar 10, 2010 17:15:02 GMT
So if either one of List 1a or List 1b then which one will it be as reading the statement competitors dont have a choice? need to put an end to this
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Post by speedsport on Mar 14, 2010 22:56:42 GMT
Yep, well spotted Ian. The MSA appear to have mis-worded the statement. We went back to them straight away & pointed this out. They say that the intention is to allow organisers to choose List 1A, or List 1B, or a specified control tyre or any combination thereof. We have requested written confirmation and as soon as it is received, we shall put a note on here.
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Post by bechersisace on Mar 15, 2010 20:09:54 GMT
So if either one of List 1a or List 1b then which one will it be as reading the statement competitors dont have a choice? need to put an end to this It will be whichever Tyre List the event organisers state in their Technical Regulations for a particular Class. Basically, it means that the "new" 2010 Northern Speed Classes are free to specify either of these lists so the regulations will stay as they are. No need to worry. I see that Aintree C.C. already have their Event Permit for the Sprint on the G.P track and they have adopted the Northern Speed Classes en block, so they clearly had no problems with the MSA.
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Post by speedsport on Mar 15, 2010 21:07:56 GMT
So if either one of List 1a or List 1b then which one will it be as reading the statement competitors dont have a choice? need to put an end to this It will be whichever Tyre List the event organisers state in their Technical Regulations for a particular Class. Basically, it means that the "new" 2010 Northern Speed Classes are free to specify either of these lists so the regulations will stay as they are. No need to worry. I see that Aintree C.C. already have their Event Permit for the Sprint on the G.P track and they have adopted the Northern Speed Classes en block, so they clearly had no problems with the MSA. Well before all this blew up as a result of the MSA getting its press release wrong, LMC had already received its event permits, as had many other organisers. I'm pleased to announce that we have now received the confirmation that we requested:- "General Regulation S11.6.2 states tyres for Roadgoing Production Cars and Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars Categories are to list 1A and 1B. Clubs must allow list both 1A and 1B tyres or they may, should they wish, further restrict to either 1A or 1B in their individual class regulations. Michael Duncan Technical Administrator The Royal Automobile Club Motor Sports Association Limited"So, we are back to where we were a month ago when we issued our regs! Standard Production Cars & Production Roadgoing Cars in Class 1 must use List 1A tyres only, Mod Prod cars in Class 2 can use either List 1A or 1B. Phew!
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